I have seen your speech in Beijing and this time, the joint statement by you and Zhang Xiruo. As long as one has foresight, one will know that our policy is correct. Some people in America, especially the American authorities, their viewpoint, in our view, only sees what is very near. For example, they say they want to manage the Western Pacific. I say the Western Pacific should be managed by the countries of the Western Pacific themselves. Their troops must withdraw from the Western Pacific, and there are many places to withdraw from, such as Japan, the Philippines, Korea, and also Taiwan. Dulles says we want to drive them out of the Western Pacific. It is as if we have made some mistake, as if the Western Pacific is theirs. I think their reasoning cannot win. They will have to leave eventually; their occupation is temporary. Right now, the Japanese government stands with the United States, and we are not happy. But in our view, this is also temporary; a change will come one day. Perhaps they have a different view, thinking that China's existence is temporary and Jiang Jieshi's existence is long-term. According to their viewpoint, then our joint statement is wrong, the Socialist Party's viewpoint is wrong, and China's viewpoint is also wrong. Our view is different from theirs. We are confident that time and history will prove our viewpoint to be correct.

The temporary, momentary interruption of Sino-Japanese relations is not good, but it is temporary. Aren't we now having exchanges again? The Socialist Party's approach is very correct, opening up this path of exchange.

Trade will reopen one day; we cannot go ten thousand years without doing business. But under the current approach of the Japanese government, we have no choice but to do this. This is the only path we can take. Kishi Nobusuke is determined to separate politics and economics, determined to deal with Jiang Jieshi. Fine, then let's do it his way, let him go deal with Jiang Jieshi. We can wait for him for many years; however many years we need to wait, we will wait. I once asked Comrade Liao Chengzhi to make a list of Kishi Nobusuke's hostile remarks against China. Now, we are acting according to Kishi Nobusuke's way. He stands with Jiang Jieshi and the United States. Very well, let's do it his way. Does he still disagree?

If the relations between our two countries are good, we can do business, which is beneficial to both our countries, so your policy is not wrong. Perhaps after you return home, people in your government will not approve, saying you are talking empty words, telling the Chinese to drive out the Americans, and so on. We say you are right; the Americans can be driven out and should be driven out. What reason do they have to occupy our land and your land? The reason they are so rampant is just because they have a few more tons of steel than others. Americans also have two hands, not three. The United States just has a few more tons of steel, but this is something anyone can achieve. Others are afraid of it, thinking it is a real tiger. I admit it is a real tiger, but it is bound to change in nature, from a real one to a paper one. The history of your Japan is also like this. In 1868, when the Meiji Restoration began, that is to say, ninety years ago, what steel did you have? Weren't you also bullied by foreign countries? Didn't you also lack independence? It is just these ninety years. You have developed, gone through twists and turns, and are now bullied by the United States. But this is also temporary. How can such a great nation let others bully it? You will surely become completely independent and a peaceful country.