[Between 13 September and 5 October 1921]¹

The negotiations with L. Urquardt concerning the transfer to him under concession of Kyshtym, Ridder, and Ekibastuz participated in:

1. The Principal Commission:
1) Comrade Krasin
2) Comrade Bogdanov
3) Comrade Kzhizhanovsky (owing to Comrade Kzhizhanovsky's illness, Comrade Sereda substituted for him at the final session).

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# RECORD OF CONVERSATION WITH THE MANAGER OF THE RIDDER MINES

[Between 12 and 17 September 1921]

The British flooded the mines
---------- and removed some important parts
---------- we partly pumped out
---------- - built a dam and can complete the electric[al] station (100,000 h[orse] p[ower])
2 powerful rivers, Ulba (?) and Gramatucha?
------* — 500,000 poods of ore
extracted in 4 months
7% copper
? 16 [%] lead
? 10? [%] zinc

Telegraph address: Ust-Kamenogorsk. Ridder Mine.

Elisei Frolovich Domnenko. Manager of Ridder Mines.

Engineer Bredikhin Ivan Kuzmich. Head of the electro-[smelting] plant.

¹ The date is established according to a memorandum from the Secretary of the Council of People's Commissars indicating that the manager of the Ridder Mines, Domnenko, would remain in Moscow until 17 September 1921. (see above, p. 64 of the Collection).